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Today&#;s episode is with Anton Gunn. Anton is a former senior advisor to President Barack Obama and the world’s leading authority on Socially Conscious Leadership.

This episode is important because the construct of socially conscious leadership is a perspective that I think would resonate with many organizations around the world.

Anton does a great job tying in how this framework can really support leaders at the individual level as it relates to eradicating toxic workplace behavior.

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Exploring Awareness And Socially Conscious Leadership With Anton Gunn

This episode is with Anton Gunn. Anton is a former Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama and the world&#;s leading authority on Socially Conscious Leadership. This episode is important because the construct of socially conscious leadership is a perspective that would resonate with many organizations around the world. Anton does a great job tying in how this framework supports leaders at the individual level related to eradicating toxic workplace behavior. 

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Welcome to the show. We have Anton Gunn. How are you?

I&#;m doing fantastic. Good to be with you.

I ran across some of your work in the healthcare industry related to toxic workplaces and leadership. I&#;m excited to have this conversation with you in particular about the industry of healthcare and things like that. Thank you for being here.

Thank you for having me.

Tell the readers a little bit about yourself and further your journey to becoming an advisor to President Obama.

It&#;s definitely been a long winding road. The first I always start is for people to understand my family history. I&#;m a fourth-generation military brat. When I say military brat, literally four generations of men in my family served in the military, all branches of the military, great grandfather, grandfather and my father, all of his brothers, served in the military. However, I didn&#;t serve in the military. My brother joined the Navy. The main context is that I come from a family where leadership was paramount in everything that we did. I had good and bad examples of leadership. That was my framework for the world.

I&#;m a former college football player at the University of South Carolina. When I went to college, I thought I wanted to be a school teacher. That was my career path. I wanted to teach eleventh grade US History and I wanted to coach girls’ basketball. Some people said, “Why is that?” I think girls play a better brand of basketball than boys do. It’s more fundamental. I&#;m a fundamental kind of guy. I ended up not finding a job after college because I had a toxic leadership experience in college football.

It led me to a career in grassroots community organizing. I ended up working for a small nonprofit that hired me to do surveys in the community around how people were being treated at the local hospital or healthcare system. In that conversation, you could imagine those stories that poor people and people are told about how they got treated at the hospital.

I led a big protest march outside of a hospital with patients and family members who were complaining about how the hospital treats patients and the nurses would walk by our picket line and say, “If you think they treat patients bad, you should see the way they treat us.” I said, “What?” The next thing I know is that I&#;m having a conversation with nursing leaders and nursing executives about how they were experiencing toxic workplace culture in their workplace. That led me to a public policy path where I was changing laws, writing letters to the legislature, and meeting with lawmakers.

I got elected to public office and because I&#;d been working in healthcare policy for ten years, I got to know people in DC. One of them was a skinny guy from Illinois who wanted to become president of the United States. The next thing I knew, I was helping him to become president, then a couple of years later, I was working for him as he was trying to make healthcare a right for all Americans.

One theme I hear here is the theme of injustice and how you transitioned from working with those in the community and the injustice they faced in the healthcare industry and hearing from nurses within that organizational system. Injustice comes up a lot as a sign related to organizational culture and that&#;s toxic. You say that injustice in the workplace is the great challenge. It&#;s a very big challenge faced by nowaday’s leaders. Why do you go that route? Why do you say that?

Let&#;s use the basic word, unfairness. Every last one of us knows what it feels like to be treated unfairly. We all have experienced it in our lives. Whenever we experience that unfairness, immediately if somebody doesn&#;t do anything to make it right, that unfairness begun to fester inside of us. It can bring into effect a physiological makeup. It can affect how we look, treat and even lash out at other people. We&#;re finding more often than not that people experience some level of injustice in the workplace.